Lorcan Finnegan has quite a bit to say in regards to the negative effects of capitalism and consumerism. In his 2019 feature Vivarium, Finnegan uses a young couple buying a house in a suburban neighborhood to represent how capitalism drives people to follow societal norms and get stuck in life’s mundanity. Finnegan explores capitalism once more in his recent film, Nocebo, but frames his discussion through the wealth divide between the wealthy and the poor.
Eva Green stars as Christine, a dressmaker tormented by a mysterious illness that limits her abilities to work and form relationships. When Diana (Chai Fonacier), a Filipino nanny, begins to assist Christine together with her illness, the normal healing methods work. As Christine relies on Diana for more help, her marriage with Felix (Mark Strong) suffers, throwing their family’s well-being in jeopardy. The psychological thriller is a captivating examination of the placebo and nocebo effects and a staggering commentary on consumer culture.
In an interview with Digital Trends, Finnegan discusses nocebos, capitalism, Eva Green, and the way a connection between Filipino shamanism and Irish folklore inspired his latest film.
Eva Green as Christine within the thriller, NOCEBO , an RLJE Movies and Shudder release. Photo courtesy of RLJE Movies and Shudder.
Note: This interview has been edited for length and clarity.
Digital Trends: After I watched the film, I went to my kitchen. I am going to activate the tap and I see this bug crawling up the wall and I’m like, “You bought to be kidding me with the bugs.” I killed it so fast. I wasn’t taking any possibilities.
Lorcan Finnegan: [Laughs] I form of keep forgetting about that element of the film, actually.
No more bugs for me. I need to know what first inspired your curiosity about nocebos and the nocebo effect.
I read a book actually called t’s by a medical anthropologist, Shelley Adler. It was just an interesting area. Garret [Shanley], the author that I work with, read the book as well, and we began just researching placebos. They’re the other of nocebos. Our research form of brought us to the Philippines, weirdly. As we delved into it, we form of realized that placebos were related to shamanism, and so were nocebos.
Ireland had a convention of people healing, . These powerful women in society are called clever women. That form of got eradicated with the arrival of Christianity, after which later with being colonized by Britain. As we looked more into shamanism and contemporary shamanism, it still exists within the Philippines, particularly in Cebu, an island, and Siquijor, an island beside Cebu. So we began looking into that more and began drawing these connections between our [Irish] folklore and their folklore of the Philippines, which is weirdly connected even right down to very specific stuff.
Mark Strong as Felix within the thriller, NOCEBO , an RLJE Movies and Shudder release. Photo courtesy of RLJE Movies and Shudder.
We went to the Philippines to explore more. Obviously, the Philippines was colonized by the Spanish about 10 years before Ireland was colonized by the British. They introduced Christianity, they usually form of worn out these powerful healing women called the Babylon. Once we went to the Philippines in 2019, we visited witch doctors, practitioners of Kulam, which is like black magic, and tribal chiefs.
We could understand it more fully and began seeing this other relationship that was form of connected, which is creating the story between the eradication of those varieties of nature-based beliefs and capitalism and colonization. They’re all form of connected.
Now, countries in Southeast Asia, particularly, are still form of colonized by the West and exploited by them in a recent neo-colonial kind of way. So we thought that was an interesting way into our story, and that’s kind of that’s the way it began. It’s a protracted method to moving into it. [Laughs]
You touched on the themes of capitalism and consumer culture. You’ve tackled those themes in previous movies. In Nocebo, you see the divide between the rich and the poor. Why do you proceed to explore these themes in your movies?
Interesting. Well, I mean it’s one among the issues with humanity. It’s one among the most important causes of all varieties of strife and war and the whole lot. This kind of massive divide between the rich and the poor. It just keeps on growing and growing. Yeah, I feel that form of injustice just generally pisses us off, and that, in turn, is a provocation to make work.
NOCEBO Trailer (2022) Eva Green, Mark Strong, Thriller
Eva is fascinating on this film. For her previous decisions in big-budget and genre movies just like the James Bond movie Casino Royale, she at all times goes for it. That’s one of the simplest ways I can describe her performance. How would you describe Eva?
Yeah, she’s incredible. She’s a tremendous actor and completely commits. For Eva, as well, on this story, the themes that we’re exploring, she’s quite politically minded. She thought it was necessary for her to form of get stuck in, though she’s playing an unsavory character. [Laughs]
It’s a challenge.
Yeah, exactly. She’s great. She’s cool to work with.
Pretty much as good as Eva is, the performance that may stick for most individuals is from Chai. I feel other people could have that response as well. In the course of the casting process, what traits were you searching for to fill that role, and the way did you come to pick out Chai?
Well, it was interesting. After we went to the Philippines and all that and decided to form of go for it with this story, we pitched the project in Macau, China. We got these co-producers on board from the Philippines and at Epic Media. We could understand the nuance of culture a bit more, but we still desired to ensure that we got it right so we brought on this author, Ara Chawdhury from Cebu.
Our character was then based in Cebu. We had to seek out a Cebuano–speaking actor. I actually desired to ensure that that they were a real representation of a Cebuano woman. We didn’t have a large pool to start out looking in. Our co-producers within the Philippines worked with Chai before, they usually suggested her and so did Ara.
We did see probably like 15-20 people for the role over Zoom since it was all COVID stuff occurring. She [Chai] was just good. I feel she just nailed this balance between being very friendly and barely submissive. Also, with the ability to be quite dominant and threatening as well.
She did this amazing thing within the audition where she would disarm you with a smile. She’d say something that might be taken as being a bit weird but then give a beautiful, big, warm smile afterward. You don’t really know take it. That’s where we began developing that character.
Chai Fonacier as Diana within the thriller , NOCEBO , an RLJE Movies and Shudder release. Photo courtesy of RLJE Movies and Shudder.
She has these two sides to her. Because the flashbacks start to extend, it almost becomes her move. It’s like she switches roles with Christine. Was that a conscious decision you made within the writing process?
Yeah, that was the actual challenge, and that’s what we got down to do within the film, to do a placebo and nocebo with the story. So like switching allegiances halfway through the story. What you think that is nice might be bad or what’s bad might be good. That was the intention.
There are such a lot of close-ups and visceral images, I feel of the dog and the fireplace. They’re each terrifying and exquisite in a wierd way. Why did you select to shoot these images with a close-up?
Yeah. I mean. I kind of developed the project over a protracted time so it’s hard to pinpoint the precise moment we went, “Oh yeah, use numerous close-ups.” Me and the DP, Radek [Ladczuk], we’re talking about various movies. Bergman’s Persona was actually an influence by way of close-ups.
We shot in a 1.66:1 aspect ratio, which is somewhat bit tighter because we knew we had two characters that were going to be quite close together. We desired to bring them close, which was a whole lot of two-shot portraits in addition to close-ups. You get near the characters and get to feel you could know them through close-ups, but being subverted because the film progresses.
You are feeling a way of claustrophobia.
Yeah. Also, I really like portraiture in photography as well. Sometimes, close-up can really get a distinct sense of the person relatively than simply a broad sense of them. You’ll be able to really see their face, and you may see the nuances of their expression.
Nocebo is now in theaters. It can be on demand and on digital on November 22. The film will stream on Shudder at a later date.